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Breaking Ladd's avatar

You lost me at money grosses you out 🙄

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Bowen Dwelle's avatar

I've never had a lot of toxic tacos in my life, but many years ago I began to shift from liking 'weird' people to liking _interesting_ people. None of nasty, cold, selfish, cynical, insulting, drunk, consumerist, or careless makes for interesting. Whether it's good people, good men, or good women--all the same, and I am happy to say that I have a strict two strikes policy and, therefore, zero ZEROES in my life, a subject which I wrote about in this piece →

No, It Is Not a Struggle to Find Good Male Role Models

https://bowendwelle.substack.com/p/there-is-no-struggle-to-find-good

also perhaps relevant is my practice of Let Monday Be Truth Day

https://open.substack.com/pub/bowendwelle/p/let-monday-be-truth-day

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Facing Your Demons's avatar

Toxic tacos!!! Sounds like a local Mex spot.

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Breaking Ladd's avatar

But brother and teacher-don’t you want to help all those Zeros?

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Josh Slocum's avatar

Definitely a narcissist, not just "possibly." You correctly detected the core: this is a Cluster B personality disorder dynamic. Samantha is obviously a narcissist. You see it. Anyone can see it in this description. Contrary to the modern idea that only degreed medicos can see or say these things, we all can see the obvious people with narcissistic or borderline personalities around us. It couldn't be more obvious that Samantha is one of them.

Best of luck to Britney. It's very difficult to come to terms with the fact that a "loved one" has a profoundly flawed character, and that one has been in an unhealthy dance with them for years. I know it well.

I'm glad you two have each other.

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Facing Your Demons's avatar

Thanks for reading and commenting, btw :)

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Facing Your Demons's avatar

I'm proud of the fact that my fiancée successfully uninvited her to the wedding.

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Josh Slocum's avatar

Wow. Yes. The only right choice, and the first step to dealing correctly with disordered personalities for the rest of her life. She's got this.

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Dee Rambeau's avatar

Love the piece Michael. I had to do a double take on your title. I don’t have any...toxic friendships that is. I most certainly once did, but no more. There are occasionally toxic people that enter my life but they never get to cross the threshold into friendship. Rarely do I even need to pull the eject lever anymore. Most toxic people thrive on attention like water, so if you simply ignore them (don’t water them) they dry up and blow away.

Recovery taught me that. Thank you for reminding me how grateful I am to be without the drama.

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Facing Your Demons's avatar

Agree. Ditto. When I got sober in 2010 I cut a lot of the ole drinking friends loose. Since then it's very rare.

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Sue Cauhape's avatar

This really reeled me in. We all have toxic people in our lives and I've managed to leave a few behind. Sometimes I wonder if I've been too sensitive, but then again, that's a part of the manipulation narrative. If it hurts, it hurts. Get rid of it. Thank you, Michael, for this affirmation.

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Facing Your Demons's avatar

Thanks for reading and commenting! Yes. Agree. Sometimes I ask myself if I'm just being "too sensitive." But if my gut tells me the relationship isn't right, I'm rarely off.

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Sue Cauhape's avatar

True. Many times I have failed to listen to my gut and got in trouble. Your guts will never lie to you.

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Joaquin Roibal's avatar

that was quite the do-si-do between Britney and Samantha! What happened to Samantha's first baby?

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Facing Your Demons's avatar

That it was!

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Donna McArthur's avatar

Breaking up with a lifelong bestie may be like going through a divorce. I'm not certain because I haven't been divorced but I have broken up with a bestie. It needed to happen for so many reasons, yet it still took me about three years to recover and feel like I had fully released the relationship.

I was having this exact conversation with a friend yesterday and, as happened with Britney & Samantha, you and your old buddies, me and my ex-bestie, our values shifted and our needs changed. In an emotionally mature relationship, this will be honored and growth will happen, or someone will suffer.

Way to go Britney for taking this difficult step!

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Facing Your Demons's avatar

Yes!! I couldn't agree more. I am so proud of her. If Samantha is lucky and wise (doubtful but possible), she'll learn from this and grow. Either way, Britney is better off. Like you said: Divergent values.

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